Ever find yourself swimming in grief? Poet, writer and director Maggie Daniels has, and she wrote SWIMMING in hopes of bringing a relatable experience to any listener who has lost a parent, tried to save a friend, or feels alone and unable to articulate their feelings.

Tom intersperses some of Maggie’s personal readings (avaiable on Spotify) throughout their discussion on grief, the South, and healing. Also hear about Maggie’s plans to direct her first independent film, Tanglewood. Support her work through maggielogic.com